Exploring Genealogy
with
Special
Guest
Dear
Myrtle
Using Family History Centers
Wisely
Transcript of Chat - 20 March, 2001
| genealogyADM | I'd like to start off by giving DearMYRTLE a big warm welcome to our chat room |
| DearMYRTLE | <bowing to everyone!> |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| April | clap,clap |
| genealogyADM | She is a very fun and experienced lady and I know you will enjoy this evening's chat |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| Michael2 | XXXXXXXXXX |
| genealogyADM | The topic is "Using Family History Centers Wisely" |
| rikki | .*applause* *applause* |
| tiny | :-) |
| cam | hello |
| genealogyADM | Myrt has her own genealogy column and Web site which you should all be sure to check out after chat: |
| genealogyADM | http://www.dearmyrtle.com |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| DearMYRTLE | THANK-you Kimberly, for inviting me to visit with you all this evening! |
| DearMYRTLE | FIRST..... I'd like a show of hands who has been to a FAMILY HISTORY CENTER.....? |
| genealogyADM | me! |
| rikki | Me Me |
| penbay | here |
| April | yes |
| wayneinIN | me |
| BeccaRose | <raising hand> |
| Michael2 | me |
| UnkHiram | me |
| EagleMCW | I have ;-> |
| Kaymiami | me |
| tiny | me |
| Shatys | me |
| Pat | me |
| DearMYRTLE | and WHO has been to the www.familysearch.org WEB SITE? |
| illyad | me me |
| BeccaRose | me again |
| Kaymiami | me |
| rikki | me me me me |
| April | me |
| DearMYRTLE | .taking fast notes> |
| Michael2 | me |
| penbay | me me |
| Pat | me |
| genealogyADM | me |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| cam | me |
| edna | me |
| wayneinIN | just getting started here |
| Shatys | me |
| DearMYRTLE | If you are planning to do any genealogy research, you will eventually find that many of the resources you need are available through the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah and its 3,500+ branches called Family History Centers (FHC), located through the world. |
| Patricia | me |
| DearMYRTLE | Now that they've got the FamilySearch web site: |
| Sher | me too |
| DearMYRTLE | www.familysearch.org people tend to write to me and say "well, they got the records online." While its true there are several databases (IGI, Ancestral File & Pedigree Resource File) |
| DearMYRTLE | (got ya on the list SHER!) |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| DearMYRTLE | BUT THERE IS STILL so very much NOT online.... |
| DearMYRTLE | and I'd like to mention some IMPORTANT things to do ONLINE and OFFLINE |
| DearMYRTLE | so settle back in your EASY CHAIRs..... |
| DearMYRTLE | sip that Coke or hot chocolate.... |
| DearMYRTLE | Kim, can you pass around that tray of my grandmother's |
| DearMYRTLE | special recipe for CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES..... |
| DearMYRTLE | and UNK, we need an extra log on the fire..... |
| Michael2 | mmmmm |
| April | mmmmm |
| DearMYRTLE | LET'S TALK GENEALOGY! |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| genealogyADM | My pleasure Myrt! |
| DearMYRTLE | 99 & 44/100ths of what's valuable at the Family History Library (FHL) in Salt Lake City is still available only on microfilm & microfiche. |
| UnkHiram | carrying wood |
| BeccaRose | <happy dance> |
| DearMYRTLE | The FHL has microfilm copies of courthouse and vital records from all |
| rikki | .*reaching ahead of everyone* |
| DearMYRTLE | over the world. Learning to use local centers can prove to educate you in the types of records available and how to obtain them to continue your research. |
| rikki | .*munch* *munch* *munch* *gulp* |
| DearMYRTLE | I see we're going to have to save the cookies from rikki! |
| DearMYRTLE | ::::giggle::::: |
| rikki | LOL |
| tiny | save some for the rest of us |
| DearMYRTLE | You can take a picture tour of the Huntsville Alabama LDS Family History Center by going to its WEB page |
| DearMYRTLE | The webmaster and director of the center is also FATerry@aol.com. She manages the American Online Genealogy Forum Message Center and has written the excellent AOL Genealogy Forum Guidelines. |
| DearMYRTLE | (AOL Keyword: roots) |
| DearMYRTLE | Terry also often attends the Family History Center Drop-In hour on Tuesdays at 11am eastern in the Ancestral Digs meeting room of AOL Genealogy Forum. Keyword: roots. |
| DearMYRTLE | Here's a FHC Research Checklist prepared with the expert advice of my good friend Elsie Naylor. This is given to each new patron at the Brandon Stake Family History Center to make them aware of the various collections. |
| DearMYRTLE | I've modified it A LOT since the advent of the |
| DearMYRTLE | www.familysearch.org web site..... |
| DearMYRTLE | EACH SURNAME should be searched faithfully through each of these collections in order. |
| DearMYRTLE | you will exhaust the www.familysearch.org |
| DearMYRTLE | web site FIRST, then |
| DearMYRTLE | Although you may not know where to find each of these collections at your particular FHC, be sure to ask the volunteer for information including how to use each item on this listing. |
| DearMYRTLE | FHC = local FAMILY HISTORY CENTER.... ok? |
| DearMYRTLE | ANYONE NOT know where their local center is? |
| DearMYRTLE | How to locate your local LDS FHC: Roots - L has a page with links |
| UnkHiram | me (Shamefully admitting) |
| DearMYRTLE | to addresses of the larger LDS Family History Centers throughout the world, check with the FamilySEARCH Web site |
| DearMYRTLE | REMEMBER, whether searching online or offline.... |
| DearMYRTLE | Using a LDS Family History Center |
| rikki | .* Large gasp of air* You Unk?? I never would have thought it! |
| DearMYRTLE | 1. Gather all vital records, bible records, old documents & photos. |
| DearMYRTLE | 2. Organize data on family group sheets & pedigree charts. |
| DearMYRTLE | 3. Decide what you want to learn about your ancestors. |
| DearMYRTLE | 4. Select the record to search. |
| DearMYRTLE | 5. Obtain & search the record. |
| DearMYRTLE | FIRST ELIMINATE PREVIOUSLY COMPILED RESEARCH.... |
| DearMYRTLE | There is no point in reinventing the wheel! Check previously submitted research first. You'll want to find any references to your ancestors already in print or on computer databases. |
| marmfin | Dear Myrtle, How did you get to be so smart? |
| DearMYRTLE | Do as MUCH online as possible, then look at original documents on microfilm. |
| DearMYRTLE | Check each of these sources at LDS Family History Centers, avoiding duplication of effort. |
| DearMYRTLE | A DUMP TRUCK HIT ME, MARMFIN.... and I had no CHOICE but to learn computers..... |
| rikki | Hiya jackie!! |
| BeccaRose | hey Jackie! |
| DearMYRTLE | FAMILYSEARCH(tm) COMPUTER DATABASES |
| rikki | Myrt....ouchie |
| DearMYRTLE | www.familysearch.org |
| DearMYRTLE | Be sure to obtain research outlines on each FamilySearch (tm) database for more details than are shown on this computer databases overview in paper format at your local FHC |
| jackieb | Hey folks-whats up? |
| DearMYRTLE | ANCESTRAL FILE pedigree linked data. Save to disk or print out from an FHC computer, but also accessible at the web site: |
| marmfin | Well, you wouldn't lie! |
| DearMYRTLE | MOST IMPORTANT//////////// |
| DearMYRTLE | In any case, be sure to obtain a copy of the submitter's list for each entry & write for more details. |
| DearMYRTLE | -------------------------------- |
| DearMYRTLE | IGI International Genealogical Index individual event, searchable online at: |
| DearMYRTLE | www.familysearch.org |
| DearMYRTLE | QUESTION FOR EVERYONE............... |
| DearMYRTLE | HAVE you had MUCH LUCK with Ancestral File or the IGI? |
| tiny | no |
| cam | no |
| rikki | no |
| BeccaRose | moderate luck yes |
| April | no listings found |
| edna | not me |
| DearMYRTLE | the CD-ROM and Fiche versions are too slow, so I prefer the online versions! |
| Kaymiami | yes |
| Bck | Yes, but found mistakes there too |
| genealogyADM | Myrt - I use them for clues on occasion, but that's about it... |
| DearMYRTLE | good point, Kimberly! |
| DearMYRTLE | Were any of you able to CONTACT THE SUBMITTER to get back-up |
| UnkHiram | some, but it has to be double checked |
| DearMYRTLE | or rather SOURCE DOCUMENTATION? |
| Kaymiami | I find mistakes, but I also find a lot of entries two or three times and it matches when I find an original record |
| DearMYRTLE | <nodding> |
| BeccaRose | am waiting for replies now |
| DearMYRTLE | So as you can see these files are NOT PERFECT..... but might provide some CLUES |
| DearMYRTLE | ONE DATABASE that is ONLINE is the newly created: |
| DearMYRTLE | PEDIGREE RESOURCE FILE PRF (only online or in CD-ROM format. Not all FHCs have upgraded their computers to view the PRF in Windows format. |
| Michael2 | is there anything that is perfect |
| rikki | I sent a letter out to one but no reply. It was the only one I found and they weren't in the line I'm really researhing. |
| UnkHiram | My wife |
| DearMYRTLE | BEsides, its quicker to view them online at home, in the convenience of our homes! |
| marmfin | I just discovered Drumquin, County Tyrone and lots of matches! |
| genealogyADM | LOL Unk! |
| BeccaRose | :) Unk |
| DearMYRTLE | UNK... the blonde sure is perfect.... you do love her! |
| DearMYRTLE | ANYWAY back to our topic! |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| DearMYRTLE | Get those cookies from RIKKI! |
| UnkHiram | Shutting up and trying to behave |
| BeccaRose | lol |
| DearMYRTLE | I need one for extra strength! |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| DearMYRTLE | heheheee.... |
| rikki | *.munching faster* |
| DearMYRTLE | the web site explains the PEDIGREE RESOURCE FILE: |
| tiny | behave |
| DearMYRTLE | "The Pedigree Resource File is a growing database of lineage-linked names submitted by users of the FamilySearch™ Internet Genealogy Service. Pedigree Resource Files will become a reservoir of names to help individuals identify and link to their ancestors. Users can draw from this database for help with their family history research or for submissions to Ancestral File. " |
| DearMYRTLE | This is another form of a previously compiled genealogy.... |
| DearMYRTLE | and I make them second cousin to those GENEALOGY BOOKS down at your local library. |
| DearMYRTLE | A genealogy book is only as good as its SOURCE DOCUMENTATION |
| DearMYRTLE | and the same goes for WEB PAGES, and COMPUTER GENEALOGY DATABASES/ |
| DearMYRTLE | PERIOD. |
| DearMYRTLE | That would be nuff said..... right there! |
| DearMYRTLE | but I DO have some more comments..... and then I'd like to tackle some of your questions???/ |
| DearMYRTLE | OK?>????? |
| tiny | OK!!! |
| BeccaRose | lead on |
| rikki | hok |
| Kaymiami | sure |
| DearMYRTLE | OK. this next part is VERY IMPORTANT |
| DearMYRTLE | if you want to move beyond those MYTHOLOGICAL |
| DearMYRTLE | database entries |
| DearMYRTLE | (those that have no source documentation!) |
| DearMYRTLE | FHLC Family History Library Catalog Surname, Locality & Microfilm/Microfiche Number Searches. Best to view this online at: |
| DearMYRTLE | you know how EVERY LIBRARY has a catalog |
| DearMYRTLE | of its holdings? |
| DearMYRTLE | The FHLC |
| DearMYRTLE | is available on fiche & CD (SLOW working through these versions) |
| DearMYRTLE | AND |
| DearMYRTLE | its available online. |
| Deb | what address is FHLC?: |
| DearMYRTLE | You should be LIVING there |
| DearMYRTLE | www.familysearch.org |
| BeccaRose | every day |
| DearMYRTLE | then click on the FAMILY HISTORY LIBRARY |
| DearMYRTLE | and you'll find the CATALOG. |
| DearMYRTLE | you can look up ALL YOUR SURNAMES |
| Deb | is there a charge |
| DearMYRTLE | to find references in the catalog |
| DearMYRTLE | to those names.... |
| DearMYRTLE | not to view the catalog.... but let me get going further |
| rikki | .*CRASH* *tinkle* *tinkle* *tinkle* |
| rikki | .*blush* |
| DearMYRTLE | the familysearch web site IS NO FEE. |
| rikki | sorry |
| rikki | :) |
| DearMYRTLE | rikki just dropped my gradnmother's cut glass service tray...... |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| rikki | LOL |
| Michael2 | it is not funnny, rikki |
| DearMYRTLE | nope, it was just the fake plastic one from Wal-Mart..... |
| rikki | I got Glue Myrt....don't worry! |
| DearMYRTLE | THANKS hon! |
| DearMYRTLE | OK..... |
| DearMYRTLE | MORE IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT THE CATALOG.... |
| DearMYRTLE | QUESTION |
| DearMYRTLE | Have any of you ORDERED a microfilm or microfiche |
| DearMYRTLE | through your local FHC? |
| Kaymiami | yes |
| Michael2 | yes |
| penbay | yes |
| BeccaRose | not yet |
| genealogyADM | tons... |
| April | yes- and found scads of info |
| Shatys | lots |
| Deb | no |
| DearMYRTLE | What sorts of things did you look at on microfilm? |
| tiny | no |
| illyad | yes |
| Kaymiami | Order bishops transcripts from England 1780 |
| Michael2 | census |
| penbay | census, BDM |
| DearMYRTLE | (this is the GROUP PARTICIPATION portion of the chat!!!!!) |
| DearMYRTLE | ::::giggle::::::: |
| tiny | census |
| April | so far, church records |
| UnkHiram | lots of stuff |
| UnkHiram | old newspapers |
| UnkHiram | census |
| Sher | me too |
| DearMYRTLE | I've looked at LAND RECORDS |
| genealogyADM | civil registrations from France; church records from Poland; land deeds from NC....... |
| DearMYRTLE | probate records 1789 Lincoln County, Kentucky. |
| DearMYRTLE | GREAT responses...... |
| DearMYRTLE | the rest of the folks in the room |
| jackieb | I'm getting ready to make 1st order. |
| DearMYRTLE | will get the main idea..... that you can order all |
| Sher | marriage records |
| DearMYRTLE | sorts of info Church records etc.... |
| genealogyADM | Great jackie! |
| DearMYRTLE | ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS |
| cam | I'm learning and taking notes |
| DearMYRTLE | oops on my spelling. |
| edna | me too cam |
| DearMYRTLE | ON MICROFILM.... |
| genealogyADM | cam - I'm also saving a transcript of this chat |
| DearMYRTLE | does anyone know how the Famiyl History Library GOT that huge microfilm collection? |
| genealogyADM | So you can all check my site tomorrow and put down your pencils <grin> |
| jackieb | No |
| UnkHiram | VOLUNTEERS |
| edna | oh good Kim - glad to hear that |
| Joyce2005 | yes |
| tiny | good |
| DearMYRTLE | (its grows by thousands of new films/books/maps & fiche each month!) |
| Joyce2005 | volunteers |
| tiny | church members? |
| DearMYRTLE | one of several methods involves volunteers who go and actually microfilm the records |
| DearMYRTLE | say in that distant Parish rectory |
| Deb | wow |
| DearMYRTLE | this is a method of preservation |
| cam | they haven't done any thing in Czech |
| DearMYRTLE | which came into popularity around 1947..... |
| DearMYRTLE | clear back in the last century! |
| DearMYRTLE | :::giggle::::: |
| DearMYRTLE | seriously now..... these microfilming crews |
| DearMYRTLE | turn each page of a church record book |
| DearMYRTLE | and take a picture, and proceed.... until the records are done. |
| DearMYRTLE | A SECOND method of obtaining microfilm |
| DearMYRTLE | is to actually purchase a copy from those entities |
| DearMYRTLE | such as the National Archives |
| DearMYRTLE | that have their own microfilming projects going on. |
| genealogyADM | Actually Cam, they do have records microfilmed for Czechoslovakia |
| DearMYRTLE | in any event..... |
| DearMYRTLE | WHAT LOCALITIES were you researching |
| DearMYRTLE | (those of you that |
| DearMYRTLE | ordered the microfilm?) |
| edna | hi Dee |
| April | Canada |
| penbay | US and Ireland |
| Kaymiami | Lancaster, England |
| Michael2 | Indiana |
| DearMYRTLE | <----------------Germany, Lincolnshire, Eng; Pennsylvania, KY |
| edna | England and Scotland |
| Deb | i have a unknown Canada |
| Shatys | mostly southern US |
| genealogyADM | NC, SC, France, Poland, Germany, England... |
| Kaymiami | Southern Illinois |
| UnkHiram | England |
| DearMYRTLE | and these are DISTANT from where you live, I can well imagine. |
| EagleMCW | Ireland Germany US |
| DearMYRTLE | You can save RESEARCH DOLLARS by ordering in the court probate records ON MICROFILM |
| DearMYRTLE | through your local FHC Center. |
| UnkHiram | Everything is distant from Texas |
| DearMYRTLE | and you can SAVE TIME by deciding WHICH records to order |
| DearMYRTLE | by visiting |
| DearMYRTLE | www.familysearch.org |
| Kaymiami | I need a birth in Tennessee in 1780 and I don't know the county, lots of work ahead |
| DearMYRTLE | online, and using the CARD CATALOG. |
| BeccaRose | glad you could make it Dee |
| DearMYRTLE | IOH..... I STILL tend to call it a CARD CATALOG. |
| DearMYRTLE | old habits die hard. |
| Dee | I research only in Scotland. |
| DearMYRTLE | I mentioned looking up |
| DearMYRTLE | your SURNAMEs |
| DearMYRTLE | SURNAMES are listed in the catalog |
| Deb | can you get local histories for tales about these people there? |
| rikki | Canada......Canada.....Canada.....and Canada. Not sure where else yet :) |
| Dee | Anyone researching in Scotland besides me? |
| DearMYRTLE | when a book... written about the SMITHS might also have some top ten or so surnames..... |
| edna | Yes Dee, I am |
| DearMYRTLE | so the book is listed under many more than the one title "THE SMITH FAMILY OF KENNIWICK, WASHINGTON) |
| Dee | There you are Edna! I didn't see your name on the list. |
| DearMYRTLE | SCOTLAND has some records already in the local US and Canada FHCs...... |
| DearMYRTLE | let me pull up that info |
| Joyce2005 | smith is very hard to research! too common a name! |
| DearMYRTLE | LOCALITIES (PLACES its called online at familysearch.org) |
| Michael2 | kinda like davis |
| DearMYRTLE | are where I spednd 90% of my catalog time online. |
| April | only slightly worse than clark |
| Jules | try being a Smith/Jones |
| edna | you searching Clark April? |
| DearMYRTLE | Print out the FILM NOTES for the book or record you wish to order, and visit your local FHC to order the film in for a few dollars. |
| DearMYRTLE | when viewing the FHLCatalog online. |
| April | yes |
| penbay | 8 |
| DearMYRTLE | BUT there ARE some databases to look at ONLY at the FHCs.... |
| Deb | I was told my gr grandfather was a race horse thief and born in Henderson KY could I find out if this was true |
| DearMYRTLE | Scotland CD-ROMs Scottish Church Records version 9/95 is similar to the OPR Microfiche except that it will search the entire country, whereas the microfiche version is divided by counties. Save to disk or print out indexed christening and marriage records, with references to microfilm of original document, which you can obtain for further proof. |
| DearMYRTLE | OPR=Old Parochial Records |
| DearMYRTLE | Have you Scottish researchers had a chance to look at those? |
| DearMYRTLE | Only available at local FHCs, not online. |
| edna | no not yet |
| DearMYRTLE | MDI Military Death Index for Korean War & Viet Nam Conflict (including Laos & Cambodia.) States branch of service and date of death, etc. Save to disk or print out --ONLY on the FHC computers, not online yet. |
| DearMYRTLE | PAF Personal Ancestral File organizes what you've found in this popular genealogy management program. Try before deciding to buy it for your home computer. Ask about local PAF Users Groups for assistance. Downloadable for FREE from: |
| DearMYRTLE | www,familysearch.org |
| DearMYRTLE | SSDI Social Security Death Index search by SURNAME at time of death, and write to the SSAdministration with the SS# for copy of the original application for the number (not benefits.) This provides positive proof of birth and parentage. Save to disk or print out. Addresses for state vital records & costs for copies are also included. |
| DearMYRTLE | This is best found online at www.rootsweb.com |
| DearMYRTLE | so it is not necessaary to waste your precious FHC time looking at this. |
| DearMYRTLE | Family Registry indexes more than 286,000 individuals and family |
| DearMYRTLE | BUT |
| DearMYRTLE | BUT |
| DearMYRTLE | BUT |
| DearMYRTLE | THE FAMILY REGISTRY is OUTDATED..... |
| DearMYRTLE | I believe its more advantageous to use a mail list at: www.rootsweb.com |
| wayneinIN | I've been told that you want to order social security records as a photo copy, not a printout |
| Dee | Myrtle - do you have the hiccoughs? |
| DearMYRTLE | than the old FAMILY REGISTRY. |
| Deb | meaning? |
| DearMYRTLE | YES WAYNE.... |
| DearMYRTLE | the printout only shows the recent info..... |
| DearMYRTLE | you want to submit a letter of request |
| wayneinIN | and send in $7.00 to get results |
| DearMYRTLE | now $7 with the SSN (which you find in the SSDI) |
| DearMYRTLE | and get a copy of the ss-5 which is the original application for the number |
| DearMYRTLE | NOT BENEFITS |
| DearMYRTLE | where the person had to show PROOF of parents & birth or naturalization. |
| wayneinIN | that has a lot of info about submitter |
| DearMYRTLE | without the SSN you would have to pay twice as much! |
| Joyce2005 | SS#s don't go back very far |
| Sis | Is there information on Korean War vets that's not a casualty? |
| DearMYRTLE | The SUBMITTER to the SSDI is the Social Security Administration..... whenit has received notice of a death. |
| wayneinIN | available since 1937 |
| DearMYRTLE | RIGHT, they will only help with post 1960s deaths.... |
| Deb | What was the standard of proof for those born before recording was required? |
| DearMYRTLE | and NOT EVERY ONE was reported to SSADMinistration.... because no need to, if no benefits. |
| DearMYRTLE | DEB, it varied... usually a certificate of birth... |
| DearMYRTLE | or delayed birth certificate |
| DearMYRTLE | but failing that |
| DearMYRTLE | sworn statements from mother and people who know both mother and child. |
| Deb | Cause I cant find birth record of grfather yet knows he had ss |
| DearMYRTLE | Also for the early part of the deaths in the SSDI, many are missing because they were purged form the system BEFORE folks said... |
| DearMYRTLE | hey, we need to keep this info! |
| DearMYRTLE | I have ANOTHER collection found at FHCs in US....... |
| DearMYRTLE | AIS Census Index Accelerated Index System microfiche alpha-listing in 8 sections of many people who were recorded living in the US from 1607-1906, compiled from Federal Census and early tax & rent rolls. Caution: 19% error rate. Reference gives abbreviated entry or specific page, district and year of original record for accessing copy on microfilm. |
| DearMYRTLE | NOT COMPLETE by any means. |
| DearMYRTLE | Note that Ancestry.com has the AIS Census Index in its fee-based membership library. www.ancestry.com |
| DearMYRTLE | So if you have a subscription to Ancestry's databases, its EASIER to search it online, you won't have |
| DearMYRTLE | to work with the 8 different sets of microfiche, fiche reading machine, etc. |
| DearMYRTLE | Another collection to consider...... I believe only the Washington DC Temple FHC has the complete set outside of Salt Lake..... |
| DearMYRTLE | Family Group Record Archives (on microfilm) includes family group sheets submitted from 1942-1969 to the Gen. Society of Utah, arranged alphabetically by husband's surname. These are gradually being computerized, so check the IGI on computer first. If your ancestor's name isn't there, order a microfilm from this huge group sheet collection. |
| DearMYRTLE | UNFORTUNATELY..... |
| DearMYRTLE | When this collection was microfilmed, they discoverd about 10% of the pages had been ripped out of the old genealogy lineage books by patrons! |
| DearMYRTLE | Can you believe THAT! |
| genealogyADM | That's horrible! |
| DearMYRTLE | This has been transcribed to the IGI by volunteers using the double entry "NameExtraction Program." |
| DearMYRTLE | So you can pretty much SEARCH for names ONLINE, but those |
| DearMYRTLE | OLD |
| DearMYRTLE | family group sheets |
| DearMYRTLE | still have a few SOURCE NOTES |
| DearMYRTLE | that don't show up in the IGI |
| DearMYRTLE | so you might want to get the ORIGINAL ENTRY. |
| DearMYRTLE | For this, you'd have to be sure to order the microfilm associated with that entry in the IGI. |
| DearMYRTLE | EVERY ONE TAKE A STRETCH.... this NEXT thing is VERY |
| DearMYRTLE | IMPORTANT..... |
| DearMYRTLE | so I want you rested and able to listen....... |
| DearMYRTLE | Parish & Vital Records List PVRL - indexing what has been and is in the process of being extracted to the IGI. |
| DearMYRTLE | THIS is a very important collection, NOT AVAILABLE ONLINE. Its a very small collection of microfiche - that packs a big punch! |
| DearMYRTLE | THE PVRL helps you evaluate where to spend your research dollars next. |
| DearMYRTLE | -- If they (The FHLibrary's Name Extraction Program Volunteers) are working on your ancestors' parish christening/marriage/burial records, you might wait, and work on a different line. |
| DearMYRTLE | -- If they've done your ancestor's parish, and you don't find him listed, check to see what % of the book the extration team was able to decipher. |
| DearMYRTLE | Sometimes, due to poor storage conditions, the original may have been damaged, therefore only 70% of the record was estimated to have been readable. |
| DearMYRTLE | Wouldn't you just know it, YOUR ancestors might be in the missing 30%. Look for other records in the area (land, tax, voters registration, oaths of allegiance...) |
| DearMYRTLE | (UNK's ancestry would be in that.... just to make things challenging!!!!) |
| DearMYRTLE | HAS ANYONE looked at the PARISH & VITAL RECORDS LIST? |
| rikki | no |
| BeccaRose | no |
| DearMYRTLE | DO you know what some of the column headings are? |
| April | no |
| tiny | no |
| rikki | no |
| jackieb | no, didn't know about them! |
| April | no |
| Kaymiami | no, didn't know what to do with it |
| DearMYRTLE | LOCALITY (Largest to smallest jurisdiction) |
| DearMYRTLE | NAME OF RECORD |
| DearMYRTLE | TIME PERIOD of the record |
| DearMYRTLE | then % of record extracted |
| DearMYRTLE | For instance..... |
| DearMYRTLE | KIM mentioned she had looked at BISHOP's TRANSCRIPTS.... |
| DearMYRTLE | DO you know what they are (anyone other than KIM)?????? |
| rikki | We should have went on a field trip! :) |
| April | no |
| rikki | no |
| DearMYRTLE | <sipping my hot chocolate... thanks honey!> |
| tiny | no |
| DearMYRTLE | (I have a great husband!) |
| Michael2 | no not me |
| rikki | Myrt...do you loan him out? |
| DearMYRTLE | BISHOPS TRANSCRIPTS are something we find in our English research. |
| DearMYRTLE | Local parish priests made entries |
| DearMYRTLE | in the parish registers |
| Rebelkaye | marriages and deaths baptisms |
| DearMYRTLE | each day or week as they |
| DearMYRTLE | married people |
| jacky | I bought the Western E. and gave it away because I also was not sure how to use it |
| DearMYRTLE | buried people |
| DearMYRTLE | and christened people |
| DearMYRTLE | in the parish. |
| DearMYRTLE | Yearly, a report was sent to the BISHOP |
| DearMYRTLE | of each event. |
| DearMYRTLE | Sometimes the BISHOPS's TRANSCRIPT is all that has survived. |
| DearMYRTLE | or its what they have on microfilm. |
| DearMYRTLE | You'd want to know if |
| DearMYRTLE | it was the FIRST record, or the SECOND record (BISHOPS TRANSCRIPT) made of the event in the church |
| DearMYRTLE | right? |
| penbay | right |
| DearMYRTLE | ok.... IF the Bishop's Transcript was extracted for a certain little parish church in England |
| DearMYRTLE | you would find it in the PARISH & VITAL RECORDS LIST |
| DearMYRTLE | NOT the individual christenings |
| DearMYRTLE | but the listing of the |
| DearMYRTLE | LOCALITY (largest to smallest) |
| DearMYRTLE | then the TITLE |
| DearMYRTLE | Bishops's Transcript |
| DearMYRTLE | or PARISH REGISTER |
| DearMYRTLE | and then the valuation on the part of the EXTRACTION TEAM |
| Rebelkaye | is that sometimes called a parish diaries |
| DearMYRTLE | as to their estimation of the |
| DearMYRTLE | I think diaries are slightly different... but not sure/..... hadn't heard that term before. |
| DearMYRTLE | There are several types of parish records, including vestry minutes, etc. |
| DearMYRTLE | anyway.... |
| DearMYRTLE | as I said before..... |
| DearMYRTLE | -- If they (The FHLibrary's Name Extraction Program Volunteers) are working on your ancestors' parish christening/marriage/burial records, you might wait, and work on a different line. |
| jacky | Is the record on that disc or does it tell you where to go to find it? PVRL? |
| DearMYRTLE | It mentions the microfilm..... of the original records, yes. |
| DearMYRTLE | IF |
| DearMYRTLE | and I say |
| DearMYRTLE | If the record was extracted 100% |
| Kaymiami | is the PVRL on microfiche? |
| DearMYRTLE | and you DO NOT find your ancestors mentioned in the church parish register |
| DearMYRTLE | look for a different |
| DearMYRTLE | close by parish |
| DearMYRTLE | for them.... |
| DearMYRTLE | using a map and running along EASY walking routes. |
| DearMYRTLE | But if the record was NOT extracted 100% then look for OTHER RECORD TYPES in the area |
| DearMYRTLE | for possible mention of your ancestor. |
| DearMYRTLE | GOSH..... |
| DearMYRTLE | this has been a LONG TALK.... |
| DearMYRTLE | and we're losing some folks.... |
| DearMYRTLE | HOW ABOUT OPENING IT UP FOR |
| DearMYRTLE | QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS? |
| tiny | I'm still here |
| jacky | When you look for locality does that mean town or church? |
| DearMYRTLE | YES... THANKS TINY.... and I know folks have |
| penbay | Thank You MYRTLE!!! :-) |
| DearMYRTLE | LOOK FIRST FOR THE TOWN...... |
| DearMYRTLE | then see if it is church or court records hon. |
| DearMYRTLE | GOOD QUESTION JACKY! |
| DearMYRTLE | or land records |
| DearMYRTLE | so its LOCALITY - then RECORD TYPE! |
| DearMYRTLE | Original Documents Research |
| DearMYRTLE | In order to "spot check" previously submitted research and to find additional generations, you must begin to review original records. These were created at the time an event occurred in the life of your ancestor. Access such records without taking a trip around the world. Save travel $$$ for researching areas not yet microfilmed. |
| DearMYRTLE | Research Outlines designed by experts at the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake guide your efforts. References are made to the sources available through the FHL as well as other significant archives. Localities include: US and each state, Canada & each province, England, Germany, Wales, Ireland, France, Tracing Immigrant Ancestors. Consult each outline at your local FHC or obtain a copy for a nominal fee. |
| DearMYRTLE | Found ALSO ONLINE at: |
| cam | it is hard to get info from czech I have been trying for a year |
| DearMYRTLE | www.familysearch.org |
| UnkHiram | ? |
| DearMYRTLE | YES HON... UNK? |
| DearMYRTLE | FHC Core Special Collections II & II |
| DearMYRTLE | Most FHCs have a core collection of the "200 Most-Used Reference Works" as determined by the FHLibrary in Salt Lake. Collections include: DAR Lineage index, Myers-Orts (gazetteer of Germany), Grassroots of America, Index to 1841-91 Census (England ,Wales, Isle of Man & Channel Islands), |
| DearMYRTLE | South Carolina Index to Wills, Lovell's Gazetteer & Canadian Dominion Directory, Larry O. Jensen's Genealogical Handbook of German Research, Danish-Norwegian Paleography, Cradled in Sweden, California Pioneer Register & Index, Pension roll of 1835, Old KY Deeds and Entries, War of 1812 Bounty Lands in Illinois, & MD Calendar of Wills. |
| DearMYRTLE | -------Your local LDS Family History Center volunteer will be happy to assist you with your research!--------- |
| DearMYRTLE | BUT these folks are just that VOLUNTEERS |
| DearMYRTLE | and they had a variety of experience levels. |
| DearMYRTLE | they may or may not have experience researching in your areas.... |
| jacky | Thank you for the help, I will try the pvrl again and not give up so fast, good night all. |
| UnkHiram | Myrt, are you a writer or something? |
| UnkHiram | (GRIN) |
| DearMYRTLE | UNK..... your question hon?Q?Q?Q |
| tiny | with more knowledge than me :') |
| DearMYRTLE | You silly..... |
| DearMYRTLE | You know me too well! |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| DearMYRTLE | good night JACKY! |
| UnkHiram | LOL, sorry couldnt resist |
| Patricia | Thanks |
| genealogyADM | G'Night Jacky! |
| DearMYRTLE | Additional Items at your specific FHCenter. Each FHC varies in size, hours of service, experience of volunteers and scope of collection. |
| DearMYRTLE | Call for hours of operation and to schedule computer time in advance. As patrons order microfilms for indefinite loan, and provide microfiche, these become part of the collection which all patrons may use. In my case the following additional items are available where I volunteer: |
| DearMYRTLE | Brandon Florida Stake, LDS Family History Center, 3400 Cortez Road, Bradenton, FL , |
| DearMYRTLE | MICROFILM |
| DearMYRTLE | Indefinite Loan - Partially indexed by locality, subject or surname in the 3X5 card file and in the Indefinite Loan Binder. Larger collections include: |
| DearMYRTLE | Germany - 120 assorted microfilms, Pennsylvania & Maine microfilms |
| DearMYRTLE | These are our TWO BIGGEST COLLECTIONS. |
| DearMYRTLE | From time to time I get a reader (of my column, UNK!) who says" I've been |
| DearMYRTLE | to my local FHCenter, and spent 2 whole hours there.... |
| DearMYRTLE | BUT they didn't have a thing there for me!" |
| DearMYRTLE | DO you know why? |
| tiny | why? |
| April | they didn't use all available to them |
| Michael3 | i would say that person had not done their "home" work |
| UnkHiram | I cant imagine that |
| DearMYRTLE | <thanks TINY... you get an EXTRA cookie, if we can get that tray back from Rikki.....> |
| EagleMCW | they just didn't look in the right place ;-> |
| tiny | Rikki, pass the tray |
| DearMYRTLE | Most FHCs are so small that sometimes its the janitor who opens the door.... |
| EagleMCW | they should have already gone with a list in mind |
| DearMYRTLE | what's IMPORTANT is the |
| DearMYRTLE | ABILITY |
| DearMYRTLE | TO |
| DearMYRTLE | ORDER |
| DearMYRTLE | MICROFILM & FICHE |
| DearMYRTLE | FROM SALT LAKE's |
| DearMYRTLE | Family history Library. |
| UnkHiram | and it helps if you know what to order |
| DearMYRTLE | 99% of the time the microfilm you need is just a $3.25 order fee away..... |
| DearMYRTLE | and a few weeks wait for the microfilm to arrive. |
| DearMYRTLE | THAT is merely covering the cost of postage back and forth. |
| Shatys | Unk, It takes a writer to know a writer LOL |
| Rebelkaye | you can know that from the site. |
| Michael3 | lcoally they charged me 3.50 but it was here in a week |
| UnkHiram | Shatys, (GRIN), thanks, Hope you check out my new home |
| DearMYRTLE | GOSH, Michael, I'd pay the extra 25 cents for faster service! |
| DearMYRTLE | :::giggle::::: |
| genealogyADM | Myrt - Michael's FHC is brand new! |
| Shatys | Unk, Already been there |
| DearMYRTLE | WOW! |
| DearMYRTLE | As some of the others in the chat room have mentiioned.... they've SUCCESSFULLY ordered |
| genealogyADM | Many of the volunteers are eager but newbies themselves |
| DearMYRTLE | microfilm to help them with their researchers! |
| Michael3 | i am learning right along side the volunteers |
| DearMYRTLE | YES... that is sometimes true..... |
| DearMYRTLE | SO |
| DearMYRTLE | AS RESPONSIBLE RESEARCHERS..... |
| DearMYRTLE | we're going to go do |
| DearMYRTLE | ONE MORE THING ONLINE |
| DearMYRTLE | before going to the local FHCenter..... |
| DearMYRTLE | and that is go to |
| DearMYRTLE | www.familysearch.org |
| DearMYRTLE | click SEARCH |
| DearMYRTLE | and then click RESEARCH HELPS |
| DearMYRTLE | and RESEARCH GUIDES |
| DearMYRTLE | for the research outlines describing our states/provinces & countries |
| DearMYRTLE | where we're doing research |
| DearMYRTLE | they've even got one under U |
| DearMYRTLE | for UNITED STATES |
| DearMYRTLE | called Tracing immigrant Origins. |
| DearMYRTLE | these online research guides help you |
| DearMYRTLE | with |
| DearMYRTLE | -- research strategies |
| DearMYRTLE | (peculiar to your ancestor's specific locality) |
| wayneinIN | what are good ports of entry for immigrants to the us |
| DearMYRTLE | -- consider which of the FHL sources might be useful |
| wayneinIN | besides NY |
| Kaymiami | <eyelids drooping, goodnight Myrt, Thanks for all the info |
| DearMYRTLE | -- AND tell you about the MAJOR resources in other libraries that might be essential to your research |
| Rebelkaye | how about New Orleans? |
| tiny | BRB |
| UnkHiram | New Orleans had a lot of immigrants, as did Houston and Galveston |
| jackieb | Got to go to -thanks myrt-night all |
| UnkHiram | (Ooops) sorry forgot I was supposed to be quiet |
| UnkHiram | (GRIN) |
| Jules | some of mine came through Canada |
| wayneinIN | never would have thought about Houston and Galveston |
| DearMYRTLE | BYE KAY |
| DearMYRTLE | Another thing about the research outlines..... |
| Rebelkaye | Michigan |
| tiny | I'm back |
| DearMYRTLE | you learn about the HISTORY of the AREA |
| Shatys | wb tiny |
| DearMYRTLE | as well as the TYPES OF JURISDICTIONAL DIVISIONS |
| DearMYRTLE | (like parishes instead of counties in Lousianna) |
| wayneinIN | well niters all |
| wayneinIN | its been fun |
| DearMYRTLE | That's about it..... |
| DearMYRTLE | I hope you will PREPARE before |
| DearMYRTLE | going to your local LDS Family History Center |
| DearMYRTLE | You don't have to be LDS or have LDS ancestors for there |
| DearMYRTLE | to be records of your ancestors. |
| DearMYRTLE | And they won't try to baptize you, either. |
| DearMYRTLE | You BET REB! |
| DearMYRTLE | New Orleans was a major port of arrival also! |
| DearMYRTLE | FOR FURTHER READING: |
| DearMYRTLE | Cerny, Johni & Elliott, Wendy, editors, THE LIBRARY: A Guide to the LDS Family History Library, 1988. Salt Lake: Ancestry Publishing. |
| DearMYRTLE | See also my BEGINNING GENEALOGY LESSONS: |
| Michael3 | i need to take a break and get a drink |
| UnkHiram | Michael, bring me a Dr Pepper please |
| tiny | I have gained much insight. |
| BeccaRose | toooooo funny |
| UnkHiram | Tish, try www.genealogytoday.com, and www.stategensites.com |
| DearMYRTLE | WELP..... |
| CountryRoads2 | Hi |
| BeccaRose | genealogy.about.com and www.dearmyrtle.com too |
| DearMYRTLE | How many other genealogy chat hosts are in the room tonight!!!??!!? |
| rikki | Here! |
| UnkHiram | I don't host |
| DearMYRTLE | THANKS BECCA! |
| BeccaRose | hi-eeee |
| UnkHiram | (GRIN) |
| CountryRoads2 | Hi!!!!!!!!! |
| Shatys | here |
| BeccaRose | but of course ;) |
| genealogyADM | rikki, beccarose, shatys - are all my hosts! |
| DearMYRTLE | <----------- monday night chats..... see www.DearMYRTLE.com |
| DearMYRTLE | WONDERFUL!.... |
| DearMYRTLE | AAACXK... you keep RIKKI around....... heheheheheeee |
| rikki | <------------Sunday night Canadian Chats |
| BeccaRose | and Michelle's here in spirit |
| Rebelkaye | i need to finish writing up these notes on what i just learn and get a cup of coffee |
| UnkHiram | My job is to annoy hosts |
| UnkHiram | Ask anyone |
| DearMYRTLE | Just love picking on her! |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| Shatys | Myrt, I'm one that behaves LOL |
| BeccaRose | LOL Myrt |
| DearMYRTLE | LOL shays |
| CountryRoads2 | Is this the Genealogy chat?????????????? |
| rikki | Myrt....*sniff* *sniff*.....I'm hurt! LOL |
| tiny | thank you Myrt |
| BeccaRose | lol Shatys |
| Joyce2005 | yes |
| DearMYRTLE | Rikki... how about ANOTHER COOKIE??!??!! |
| DearMYRTLE | These are the GOOD chocolate chip kind..... |
| BeccaRose | yes CountryRoads |
| penbay | LOL |
| rikki | YUMMY!!!!!!! |
| DearMYRTLE | anyone else inherit some good FAMILY RECIPES? |
| CountryRoads2 | Yes what, Joyce? |
| rikki | .*CHOMP* |
| DearMYRTLE | These need to be documented as well!!!!!!! |
| tiny | of course |
| genealogyADM | Rikki makes sure we don't get too serious in here ;) |
| BeccaRose | I behave too Shatys.....just not well....LOL |
| Joyce2005 | yes its the genealogy chat |
| UnkHiram | Myrt, Yep I think you have read a couple of them |
| DearMYRTLE | If rikki doesn't eat all the evidence! |
| CountryRoads2 | Who's the host here? |
| DearMYRTLE | some kind of BBQue! |
| rikki | LOL |
| Shatys | Becca, LOL |
| UnkHiram | Myrt, SALSA |
| DearMYRTLE | Are your chats usually 90 minutes? |
| genealogyADM | I'm the host Country |
| BeccaRose | LOL |
| UnkHiram | Four Pepper Salsa, LOL |
| DearMYRTLE | I can hardly keep typing this long? |
| rikki | CountryRoads....genealogyADM is |
| CountryRoads2 | Hi, ADM |
| genealogyADM | And DearMYRTLE is our guest tonight |
| Michael3 | was I missed? |
| genealogyADM | Myrt - chats are set for 90 minutes... |
| BeccaRose | not mine......I can't tell time apparently......LOL |
| genealogyADM | They usually last until it seems like forever |
| CountryRoads2 | What's Myrtle do? |
| DearMYRTLE | GOsh, you guys are hard workers.... |
| rikki | <rikki runs over and winds up Myrt's fingers so she can type more> |
| Rebelkaye | Thank you Myrt You gave me a couple of good ideas. |
| DearMYRTLE | Proud to be visiting with you this evening. |
| Rebelkaye | drop scones |
| DearMYRTLE | COUNTRY, I write the daily genealogy column over on AOL..... |
| DearMYRTLE | and I make some pretty mean COOKIES! |
| BeccaRose | am sooooo glad you came Myrtle.....learned a LOT |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| tiny | will this be in your column? |
| genealogyADM | We loved having you! It was an excellent chat and I think everyone here learned something new :) |
| rikki | .*shudder* |
| DearMYRTLE | Hope so REB! |
| Joyce2005 | I enjoy your columns Myrtle! |
| tiny | I can say that I did |
| DearMYRTLE | You can subscribe to my column EVEN IF you do not subscribe to AOL |
| DearMYRTLE | see: |
| edna | I can certainly say that I did |
| DearMYRTLE | www.DearMYRTLE.com |
| CountryRoads2 | I'm on aol, Myrtle |
| rikki | I do too Myrt! Been getting your column for about 6 months now :) |
| DearMYRTLE | some of my columns ar ebest read ONLINE in WEB FORMAT..... |
| UnkHiram | Everyone should at least check out Myrt's column, she aint half bad (GRIN) |
| DearMYRTLE | because of the active hyperlinks. |
| BeccaRose | lol Unk.....okay if YOU say so |
| DearMYRTLE | and the graphics capabilities. |
| DearMYRTLE | I imagine that in another ten years we'll all laugh at this sort of chat |
| EagleMCW | And come play Who want's to be a Genealogist at Myrt's chats |
| DearMYRTLE | and HTML web page. |
| DearMYRTLE | Back in 1984/5 |
| DearMYRTLE | when I first started we used 300 Baud modems. |
| Shatys | Myrt, Rikki picks on me all the time about AOL, make her appologize |
| Rebelkaye | i'm aol too |
| DearMYRTLE | and a commodore 64 Computer. |
| CountryRoads2 | What's your e-mail address, Dear? |
| tiny | me too |
| BeccaRose | she started in on me last night Shatys |
| DearMYRTLE | dearmyrtle@aol.com |
| Joyce2005 | well 10 yrsago i would have laughed at being able to do this now! |
| DearMYRTLE | but my web page is www.DearMYRTLE.com |
| DearMYRTLE | <nodding a Joyce!> |
| Rebelkaye | got you on my favorites |
| DearMYRTLE | Yes. |
| rikki | IMHO :) |
| genealogyADM | Watch your mouth Rikki!!! |
| DearMYRTLE | has its good and bad points, hon! |
| BeccaRose | <thwap> <putting Rik back in the corner> |
| rikki | LOL....ouchie |
| DearMYRTLE | thanks BECCA! |
| DearMYRTLE | :) |
| BeccaRose | :) |
| DearMYRTLE | no more cookies (for at least while you are on time out, Ricci) |
| BeccaRose | hehehe...neener neener neener |
| tiny | stand on one leg |
| DearMYRTLE | ::::giggle:::::: |
| UnkHiram | Behave rikki or they will start treating you like they do me |
| Carolee | Did I miss the discussion on FHCs??? |
| Joyce2005 | I'm not having much trouble with aol |
| rikki | .Unk....I see that! sheesh |
| rikki | :) |
| DearMYRTLE | YUP... poor ol' UNK doesn't get any respect!!!!! LOL |
| BeccaRose | aw now Unk.....you know we couldn't live without you |
| DearMYRTLE | My AOL is working fine..... |
| CountryRoads2 | What's your SNs, Tiny and Rebel? |
| BeccaRose | lol....I bet |
| rikki | OHHHHHH.....Let me start with the problems AOL does to your computer!!!! PLEASE??? LOL |
| DearMYRTLE | but I know whenever a new version comes out, the early cuts are a bit squirrelly.... |
| genealogyADM | Carolee, we're just finishing up now |
| tiny | NO!!! |
| BeccaRose | save it for Sundays Rik.......j/k |
| DearMYRTLE | also as the service grows, sometimes the numbers ring busy until they had some new ones. |
| rikki | .*sigh* |
| genealogyADM | But I will have the transcript up on my site tomorrow so you can see what you missed :) |
| rikki | LOL |
| Joyce2005 | I never use aol's upgraades right away! |
| Rebelkaye | Rebelkaye |
| DearMYRTLE | THANKS so MUCH Kim, for having me over for a visit! |
| DearMYRTLE | ;) |
| April | Got to go - Thanks Myrt for all the tips. Also, Kimberly for posting the chat. Night |
| UnkHiram | gotta admit I am on AOL too |
| UnkHiram | (GRIN) |
| DearMYRTLE | You have a great bunch of chatters here! |
| Carolee | What is your site??? |
| genealogyADM | Night April! |
| rikki | Night April! |
| BeccaRose | psst Unk...... |
| genealogyADM | http://genealogy.about.com Carolee |
| BeccaRose | I seeeeeeeeee you........lol |
| UnkHiram | yea becca |
| Michael3 | this was a great eveni g |
| rikki | Myrt...does that mean me too?? |
| Michael3 | even at this hour |
| Carolee | Thanks |
| genealogyADM | Thank You Myrt! |
| BeccaRose | told you it wasn't one to miss Michael |
| rikki | .*worried look on her face* |
| DearMYRTLE | Anytime KIM! |
| Joyce2005 | This was enjoyable! thanks Myrt! |
| genealogyADM | We've all worked hard building up these chats and we have a great time |
| tiny | Thanks Myrt |
| edna | I have to go now, thank you for all the information Myrt, and Kim - night all |
| BeccaRose | no one's chattier than you Rik |
| genealogyADM | Thank you SO MUCH for coming! |
| rikki | night edna |
| DearMYRTLE | You're welcome TINY... nice meeting you tonight.... hope |
| Joyce2005 | and to About.com's genealogy dept too! |
| BeccaRose | night Edna.....see you soon! |
| DearMYRTLE | you can stop by my web site as well.... |
| UnkHiram | Good Job Myrt |
| rikki | Yes, Myrt....Thank you! |
| genealogyADM | Night edna :) |
| penbay | Thank You Very Much, Myrtle!! |
| DearMYRTLE | Kimberly does an EXCELLENT JOB here...... and it takes MANY VOICES to |
| tiny | I get your newsletter |
| DearMYRTLE | try to EXPLAIN this internet |
| DearMYRTLE | and genealogy stuff. |
| illyad | nite Myrt |
| rikki | nite illyad |
| DearMYRTLE | I learn so much from the questions my readers pose.... |
| Shatys | Thanks for all the great info Myrt |
| genealogyADM | Thanks Myrt :) *blushing* |
| BeccaRose | <clap><clap> yea Kim! |
| rikki | nite JohnBoy!! |
| DearMYRTLE | ILYA...... nice seeing you as well! |
| Jules | Thanks Myrtle! TTFN |
| DearMYRTLE | BYEEEEEEE |
| DearMYRTLE | going |
| DearMYRTLE | going |
| DearMYRTLE | gone |
| rikki | Night Mary Ellen |
| DearMYRTLE | poof |
