| Genealogy Chat on The FamilySearch Web Site Transcript of Chat from May 8, 2000 |
| genealogyADM | SInce most of you seem to have at least tried the Surname search on the home page (which searches Ancestral File and the IGI) I think I will start tonight's chat by introducing you to the "Custom Search" feature |
| Kak2 | ok |
| genealogyADM | Let me try something here |
| Bev | ok |
| kermit.webpage.com | [2009] cruise http://www.familysearch.org |
| genealogyADM | Did the FamilySearch site just come up on your computers? |
| April | like magic |
| genealogyADM | Yay - it worked :-) |
| Kak2 | yes, but it's gone now |
| April | Now it's gone |
| Kak2 | now what? |
| hileman | it's gone |
| tubanoiz | Mine came up in a separate browser |
| genealogyADM | Are you sure the window is gone and isn't just hiding under the browser window with the chat in it? |
| genealogyADM | It should be in a separate window like tubanoiz said |
| April | how do we know that |
| Kak2 | the family search icon is on the bottom part of my computer |
| hileman | in a separate window |
| genealogyADM | Click on that Kak |
| genealogyADM | You found it hileman? |
| tubanoiz | If you bring up the start menu, your button bar will have the Family Search Internet web site there |
| hileman | yes |
| genealogyADM | Good |
| genealogyADM | April - do you have it yet? |
| genealogyADM | How about you Bev? |
| Kak2 | i did and it came up, but when i started typing it went off |
| April | , but everytime I say something, it disappears |
| Kak2 | yeah |
| genealogyADM | It will. Whichever browser you are using will be on top |
| Kak2 | oh, now its behind the chat window |
| genealogyADM | Just get comfortable with switching back and forth |
| Kak2 | how? |
| genealogyADM | It's a good thing to know how to do if you will be using the Internet a lot |
| Bev | I had an error message that the site was busy |
| genealogyADM | Just click on the icon at the bottom of your computer again, Kak |
| genealogyADM | Hold on a sec Bev |
| Kak2 | i did and it came up in front, but when i started typing it went off again |
| genealogyADM | Kak - everytime you type it will go back to the back. That is OK |
| Kak2 | how can i use it if it does that? |
| genealogyADM | I just want to know that it is there so that I can tell you to go and try things |
| Kak2 | ok, its here |
| genealogyADM | Sorry if I am confusing you all ;-) |
| genealogyADM | Bev - is your window working yet? |
| Bev | no |
| Kak2 | i've had my puter for 3 years and i'm just a begginer |
| genealogyADM | Bring that window up to the top and type in http://www.familysearch.com |
| genealogyADM | That's part of what I am trying to do...teach you a few Internet skills which will be very helpful for your genealogy research :-) |
| genealogyADM | OK everyone - look at the FamilySearch screen and find the Custom Tab - click on it and then take a look at some of the things available on that page |
| Bev | sorry what window? I am also new at this |
| genealogyADM | Bev - the window which said it was busy |
| genealogyADM | Do you see a refresh button? |
| Bev | I don't think I am connected to family search |
| genealogyADM | Bev - which browser do you use Internet Explorer or Netscape? |
| genealogyADM | While Bev and I try to figure this out, I want the rest of you to go back to the Custom Search page which you opened and select Source Guide and then select Catalog Helper |
| Bev | netscape |
| Kak2 | ok, i did that |
| genealogyADM | Bev - Click on the file menu up at the top and then click on New and then Navigator Window |
| genealogyADM | April - let's look for one of your ancestors |
| April | OK |
| genealogyADM | Can you pick one and then tell me what location that they were in |
| genealogyADM | Still with us genaddict and hileman? |
| April | Robert Kean from Perth, Lanark Co. Ontario |
| hileman | yes |
| genaddict | I'm ok |
| genealogyADM | Canada doesn't have as much info as the US, but let's try it! |
| April | many of the records I've found have the spelling KANE |
| Kak2 | this is really exciting |
| genealogyADM | Everyone go to the Catalog Helper and select Canada |
| genealogyADM | Bev - are you still there? |
| Kak2 | ok |
| genaddict | April - can you tell us which research goal you have for Robert Kean tonight? |
| Bev | I'm back |
| genealogyADM | Hi Bev |
| Kak2 | stay with us Bev |
| April | birth - can't find the date anywhere |
| genealogyADM | Sorry you are having so many problems tonight :-) |
| Kak2 | lousy spelling tonight |
| genealogyADM | Birth date is a good thing to look for |
| Kak2 | for me that is |
| genealogyADM | Everyone go back to the Catalog Helper and select birth date |
| Bev | How do I get connected to Family Search website |
| genealogyADM | Look at all of the information which comes up |
| Bev | ok |
| Kak2 | did that |
| Kak2 | wow, i'm impressed |
| Kak2 | i never have used that before |
| April | I've never been here before - this is great |
| Kak2 | this is wonderful since Kim came along |
| Kak2 | oh ok |
| genealogyADM | Anyway, this Catalog Helper is one of my favorite tools on the FamilySearch site |
| Kak2 | mine too now that i know how to use it |
| genealogyADM | It gives you an idea of what records you should be searching for to find the information that you want |
| Kak2 | right |
| genealogyADM | And it will also find all of the appropriate Family History SourceGuides which are wonderful research outlines |
| Kak2 | i love genealogy, i have always love digging up stuff |
| genealogyADM | You can also find the entire list of available SourceGuide research outlines on the first page you were at after clicking on the Custom Search tab |
| April | what do we do next - I'm so excited. |
| Kak2 | me too April |
| genealogyADM | There is a research outline for each of the 50 US states as well as the Canadian provinces |
| genealogyADM | And several other countries |
| genealogyADM | When you have some free time, you should DEFINITELY take the time to look at those research outlines |
| Bev | I am still not connecting. I must have a problem I will sign off now thanks anyway |
| Kak2 | bye Bev |
| genealogyADM | Bev - I am saving this chat |
| genealogyADM | So you can look at it on my Web site |
| April | Bye |
| Kak2 | come back Bev |
| genealogyADM | I also put most of this info in my new article today |
| hileman | we've all been there |
| Kak2 | i'm usually the one with puter problems |
| genealogyADM | We all have bad computer days - and this is pretty tricky for someone who hasn't done it before |
| genealogyADM | Please feel free to stay and listen if you want to :-) |
| Bev | Thanks |
| Kak2 | please Bev? |
| genealogyADM | OK now, back to the catalog helper |
| Bev | ok |
| Kak2 | then what Kim? |
| genealogyADM | It suggested that we first look in Vital Records and Church records for April's ancestor |
| genealogyADM | So now we go to the Family History Library Catalog and look to see if the Family History library has any of those |
| genealogyADM | Where did you say that we were searching again April? |
| April | Perth, Lanark co, Ont |
| genealogyADM | OK |
| genealogyADM | On the left hand side of your screen click on "search for ancestors" |
| genealogyADM | This will take you back to the home page |
| genealogyADM | Then click on the Custom Search tab again |
| genealogyADM | And then click on Family History Library Catalog |
| genealogyADM | This is basically the "Card Catalog" for the Family History Library in Salt Lake City UT and contains info on over 2 million records |
| Kak2 | we're with you |
| hileman | okay |
| Kak2 | now what? |
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| genealogyADM | Now select place search and type in Lanark in the top box and then Ontario in the bottom box |
| Kak2 | hi Chatter |
| genealogyADM | Hi Chatter :-) |
| Chatter | Hi Room! |
| genealogyADM | It is a good idea to be as specific as possible in that top search box so that you don't end up with a million records to look at |
| Chatter | What does it mean when you are doing the FamilySearch and the results say "All Sources"? |
| genealogyADM | Just a sec, Chatter.. |
| genealogyADM | The bottom box is used to help limit your search as well |
| genealogyADM | In this case it probably wasn't really necessary to put Ontario because there probably aren't a lot of Lanarks in the world |
| genealogyADM | But say you were searching for Lexington Kentucky and had typed in Lexington in the top box |
| genealogyADM | You would have also found results for Lexington PA, Lexington SC and so on |
| genealogyADM | Make sense? |
| April | No, but it's confusing because there is the town Lanark and then there is also a county called Lanark |
| Kak2 | i'm kind of lost |
| genealogyADM | Which one are you looking for? |
| genealogyADM | the county right? |
| April | Lanark County |
| April | Yes |
| genealogyADM | OK then lets try making the search even more specific |
| Kak2 | i'm going to search on my own. see you guys later |
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| genealogyADM | Use the back button on your browser and then type in Perth (the town April is searching for) in the top box and type Lanark (the county Perth is a part of) in the bottom box |
| genealogyADM | Chatter - back to your question now |
| genealogyADM | When you use Ancestor Search and it says "All Sources" it means that the matches come from all of the sources |
| genealogyADM | IGI, Ancestral File, Pedigree Resource File, and Web sites |
| Chatter | How do you get to the sources? |
| genealogyADM | If you click on a record from that list it will have a source number on it |
| Chatter | There was no list. |
| genealogyADM | Then you can click on the source number and it will tell you the microfilm number |
| genealogyADM | Chatter - what did you type into the search box? |
| Chatter | My info. |
| genealogyADM | You may have searched for something so specific that it had no matches |
| Chatter | I put my name in and parents name and spouse to see if it would show up my birth date. |
| genealogyADM | Did you type info into all of the boxes? Or just the surname box |
| Chatter | all |
| genealogyADM | It won't show your birth date unless someone has a Web site with your birth date on it because FamilySearch does not include living people to protect their privacy |
| Chatter | Oh What will it show? |
| genealogyADM | Did everyone type in Perth into the library catalog? |
| genealogyADM | Chatter - It won't have information about you at all |
| Chatter | Only deceased people? |
| genealogyADM | Chatter- yes, only deceased people...and only people that others have researched in the past and then contributed the info to the Church |
| genealogyADM | Or on the Web site |
| Chatter | Ok. thanks. |
| genealogyADM | Did all of you find the results for Perth, Lanark, Ontario? |
| April | yes |
| hileman | yes |
| genealogyADM | Good - look at the results list and then select vital records/newspapers - we will look there first |
| genealogyADM | When was Robert born April...these results look like they may be too recent |
| April | Somewhere in the mid 1800's. Maybe the newspaper account of his death in 1933 would give info |
| genealogyADM | Select the first title in the list - this newspaper is indexed all the way back to 1834 |
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| genealogyADM | We will use it as an example |
| April | the first on e looks the most promising |
| genealogyADM | If you select "View Film Notes" it will give you information on the microfilms of this newspaper |
| April | looks like this will be the next film I order |
| genealogyADM | April - actually I would check the details first |
| genealogyADM | It looks like most of those indexes are in book form - which you cannot request through your local FHC |
| genealogyADM | It says the later ones are only on microfilm, but I can't really tell if the earlier ones are or not |
| April | I found out that if the source is in a book, you can requests a microfilm be made of the book, I'm not sure what this cost, but I think I saw somewhere that it is $5 |
| genealogyADM | If you can't find the book elsewhere, you can actually request that they film it for you |
| April | Do you know how much it is? |
| genealogyADM | I'm not sure how much it costs...can't find it on their Web site |
| genealogyADM | I would check with your local FHC |
| genealogyADM | It can also take a while |
| April | The staff at the center wasn't sure either |
| April | They did tell me not to ask about the progress unless at least 3 months had lapsed |
| genealogyADM | Sounds about right |
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| genealogyADM | Sometimes they have to ask for permission to film first when the work is copyrighted |
| genealogyADM | Anyway, April just keep browsing through the records for Perth |
| genealogyADM | If you don't find anything there then back your search up to the County Level |
| genealogyADM | Hileman - do you have anyone you would like to search for? |
| April | Thanks for the help. |
| genealogyADM | Did this help any April? |
| hileman | okay |
| hileman | Benjamin hileman and Hannah Potts marriage in PA |
| April | I can tell I'd like to call in sick so I can spend the day on the 'puter tomorrow! |
| genealogyADM | Sounds like a plan April ;-) |
| genealogyADM | Check out my article on the Family History Library Catalog for more info |
| genealogyADM | http://genealogy.about.com/library/weekly/aa050700a.htm |
| genealogyADM | And I would like to continue this chat next week to cover some more sections of the Web site |
| April | Will you be doing more on the LDS site in the next chat? I'd like to learn more - on the IGI |
| genealogyADM | Ok - lets look for Hileman ancestors :-) |
| genealogyADM | Where in PA hileman? Do you know? |
| hileman | Either Indiana Co or Jefferson Co |
| genealogyADM | And what time period? |
| hileman | abt 1870 I think |
| genaddict | I want to do a new search here...just to introduce something else |
| genealogyADM | That's a good idea |
| genealogyADM | Everyone go back to the main page for the Family History Library Catalog |
| genealogyADM | The easiest way is probably to click on Home and then "Custom Search" and then the catalog again |
| genealogyADM | When you get there click on Surname Search |
| genealogyADM | Everyone with me? |
| hileman | yes |
| April | yes |
| genealogyADM | Type in Hileman and hit enter |
| genealogyADM | This surname search in the Family History Library catalog searches for published family historys which have the surname as a keyword (meaning that surname is fairly prevalent in the book) |
| genealogyADM | I see several Hileman histories from PA - do any of those look like they may be your family Hileman? |
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| hileman | lets try the one from York Co. |
| genealogyADM | Select that title and then select "View Film Notes" |
| genealogyADM | This is a book which has also been saved on microfiche.. |
| hileman | okay |
| genealogyADM | So you could request the microfiche through your local Family History Center if you wanted to look at it |
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| April2 | I'm back - lost the window, but will listen |
| kermit.webpage.com | [2009] cruise http://www.familysearch.org |
| genealogyADM | Hileman - have you searched for your Hilemans in the Ancestor Search? |
| April2 | got it back - thanks |
| hileman | not for Benjamin |
| genealogyADM | Why don't we try that then...unless you would rather do the place search? |
| hileman | No, we can do anc. search |
| genealogyADM | The place search would be exactly as we did it tonight for April's ancestors...except that I would recommend that you search on the county level (ie Indiana in the top box and Pennsylvania in the bottom box) |
| genealogyADM | It's hard to search by place when you aren't sure which county though |
| hileman | okay |
| genealogyADM | Go to the FamilySearch home page and type Hileman in the surname box and Benjamin in the first name box |
| genealogyADM | Leave the exact spelling box unchecked |
| genealogyADM | That way it will search for variant spellings |
| genealogyADM | Do any of these look like they may be yours? |
| hileman | maybe no. 6 |
| hileman | no, wrong spouse |
| genealogyADM | What was the spouses name again? |
| hileman | hannah potts |
| hileman | found a cousin in the list |
| hileman | my benjamin doesn't seem to be there |
| April2 | are these names extracted from the records that the LDS has collected or are they from family trees that have been submitted tothe LDS?K |
| genealogyADM | These names come from both April |
| genealogyADM | DO another search for me and I will explain the various sources |
| genealogyADM | Type Hannah in the first name box, Potts in the surname box, and select United States and Pennsylvania as well |
| hileman | just did Ben's father ,Jonas Hileman wrong Jonas |
| genealogyADM | When the list of Hannah Potts comes up, look over on the right hand side of the screen and you will see a box which says "sources searched" |
| genealogyADM | Those are the four sources which Ancestor Search looks through |
| genealogyADM | Any of them listed with less than 25 matches are already in your results list |
| genealogyADM | You will notice, however, that IGI/North America lists 25+ |
| genealogyADM | To see all of the results for that source you will have to select it from that box |
| genealogyADM | Still with me? |
| hileman | yes |
| April2 | I did a couple of quick searches, but no sources were listed under the Sourcebox |
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| genealogyADM | The IGI and the Ancestral File both are records submitted by LDS church members |
| hileman | what are you to do if you find and error in the files |
| genealogyADM | The Pedigree Resource File is primarily information which has been submitted by users of the Web site |
| genealogyADM | Are the errors in Ancestral File? |
| April2 | Have to go. The transcript of your instructions would be helpful on your site. Thanks for the help tonight. Look forward to next week |
| genealogyADM | Thanks for coming April |
| genealogyADM | I will definitely put the transcript up on my site |
| genealogyADM | Also be sure to check out both of my Family search articles |
| genealogyADM | They cover all of what we talked about here tonight |
| hileman | yes, but can't think right now where it is and would have to look in files |
| genealogyADM | And I will continue this how to chat next week |
| genealogyADM | Hileman - here is the info on their Web site on how to correct info in Ancestral File: |
| April2 | I was hoping Daisy would be here tonight so I could congratulate her on her winning the book. The guest had some helpful hints |
| genealogyADM | http://www.familysearch.org/sg/default.asp?goto_page=AFCORR.html |
| genealogyADM | She hasn't been in touch with me yet so that I can send her the book! |
| hileman | thanks---I will send corrections to them |
| genealogyADM | Hileman - there are a lot of errors in Ancestral File |
| genealogyADM | But it is still a good place to go for research ideas |
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| hileman | also in some books i've seen |
| genealogyADM | You can take the information you find and use it as clues in your own research |
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| genealogyADM | Sorry guys - but I really have to wrap up this chat now |
| hileman | I have found some good info on the Familysearch site also |
| genealogyADM | I hope I have given you some new areas on FamilySearch to experiment with |
| hileman | Thanks for the new info hope to do this agian |
| map | Type HEREAny good sites to find ancestors in Italy? |
| genealogyADM | And I will have another chat on FamilySearch next Monday at 9pm Eastern |
| hileman | Will be here |
| genealogyADM | Map - Here's a list of some good ones to start with: |
| genealogyADM | http://genealogy.about.com/hobbies/genealogy/msubitaly.htm |
| genealogyADM | Hileman - thanks for coming :-) |
| genealogyADM | You too genaddict :-) |
| genaddict | Thank you for the info |
| map | Thanks for the info. |
| genealogyADM | Your welcome map |
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| genealogyADM | Goodnight - Hope to see you next week :-) |
| map | But, this group sounds like, you're calling it a night? |
| genealogyADM | map - yes we are calling it a night |
| genealogyADM | The chat started at 9pm Eastern |
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| map | Oh, I'm on central. |
| genealogyADM | I have another group chat on Thursday at 12:30pm Eastern |
| genealogyADM | And again next Monday at 9pm Eastern/8pm Central |
| genealogyADM | Hi cherokee princess :-) |
| map | Till next Monday, I'll gone for now. bye |
| genealogyADM | I really have to go everyone |
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| genealogyADM | Feel free to stay and chat among yourselves |
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| genealogyADM | Good Night :-) |
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